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tommarrow · May 30, 2007, 03:50 PM // 15:50

I see colossal scimitars being sold almost everyday, can't be that rare.

The Herbalizer · May 30, 2007, 03:57 PM // 15:57

Hope this helps:-

R7 Hammers:
Only seen one max damage one which was R7 15>50 Spikey Warhammer

R7 Axes:
There are like 4 of them I think. R7 15 -5Energy Hand Axe, R7 15% Enchant, R7 15>50 War Axe, R7 15>50 Cleaver

Staff Wrapping:
All it says is Staff Wrapping. Only a few around.

R8 15>50 Crystalline Swords:
Very very few of them. I have personally only seen 4 of them but have been told there are quite a few more.

R7 Shields:
Not ultra rare but rare nonetheless. Dual damage reduction ones are not that rare e.g. -2-2. The rarer ones are the +XX Hp -X Dmg.

HOD Hammer / 55 HP Hammer:
Only seen one of them ever which is mine.

Unconditional Weapons:
Only number a few dozen and most are on inactive accounts now. A fair few are customized too.

There is also the following but I cant find screens of them atm:-
R 14% Warhammer (Rams Hammer Skin)
R 12% Cleaver
R9 14% Flamberge
R9 14% Falchion

R7 15>50 Brute Sword:
Only seen two of them and one is customized.

R9 15>50 15-5 Energy Crystalline Swords
Only a few of them around.

R8 15>50 Dwarven Axe:
Only seen one which sold for I think 1000 ecto ages ago.

+7 (I think) Energy Axe:
Collectors item whch no longer available. Only ever seen one.

-50 Hp Healing Req Grim Cesta:
Not that many of them around.

No Req Gold Raven & Ghostly Staffs:
Personally only seen like 6 or 7 of them. Nothing special but look cool.

TheRaven · May 30, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

I don't think any item that currently drops can be considered "Rarest of the Rare"! Sure, there are some nice expensive stuff out there (Crystallines, Mini ghostly, mini mallyx, etc.), but any item that can be gained by going to X Area, killing 10-400 of X monster (or player) and collecting the reward is not considered to be in the same rarity bracket as the stuff Herbalizer mentions.

Even if the drop rate is soo incredibly low that perhaps only 1 in 1000 folks that complete the above task will win the item, with hundreds and thousands of players completing the task each day, these items will eventually become commonplace. They will probably always be rare and expensive, but not the type of rare that you are asking about.

No, this level of rarity will always be reserved for items that are no longer obtainable in game. (Unconditional weapons, tattered cloak, Golds in pre, mini beetles, etc) There is a certain number of the item available and that's it. No more are coming. If this is an item desired by many players then the price tag is high.

For example, the mini beetle was awarded a few months ago to champion beetle racers. I'm not sure if 500 beetles were awarded or only 100. Let's say there were 500 for the sake of argument.
The day after the beetle races close there are 500 beetles ingame.
Some get accidentally deleted.
Some accounts with beetles are banned.
Some beetle winners get bored with the game and uninstall and go to WoW.
A month later there are 470 beetles in game.
2 months later - 468 beetles
3 months later - 460 beetles
A year later - 430 beetles.
You get the picture. Unless A-Net awards more beetles, the price tag and rarity will only go up on these items.

Same thing with the Tattered Cloak. When the item dropped in game there were thousands of players with this item in their inventory. It's a useless item though so most players deleted it. Now only a handful exist ingame so it's a valuable (yet still useless) item.

It's the same economic principle that allows Action Comics #1 to sell for thousands. When it was first issued it sold for 10 cents and there were thousands of copies around. 70 years later there are perhaps 5 copies in good condition and a few dozen more in crappy condition.

Narcism · May 30, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37

I have a bunch of superior/major runes with minor skins (2 of my sup vigors are like this, i have some majors, but who uses majors lawwwl)
I have a bunch of no-req raven staves (6-10 damage +10 energy unconditional)

masteroflife · May 30, 2007, 05:41 PM // 17:41

no thx to Hard Mode, i think everyone who wants a colossal scimitar already have one already. it's incredibally cheap rite now.

Medion · May 30, 2007, 05:47 PM // 17:47

Quote:

HOD Hammer / 55 HP Hammer:
Only seen one of them ever which is mine.

What is this? Looked for info on wiki, but couldn't find any.

Milennin · May 30, 2007, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Do Unconditional Weapons still drop, or are they discontinued...?

HawkofStorms · May 30, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

As pointed out a while ago, they no longer drop Milennin. They didn't really "drop" either, but were created with a bug. They only droped for like the first 3 weeks of the game.

ShadowsRequiem · May 30, 2007, 06:13 PM // 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by anshin

i think colossal scimitar is a pretty rare thing... in the wiki it is described as being rarer than elemental and crystallines....

i have only seen one being WTS...

I hope your being sarcastic -.-

colossal scimitars = easiest "rare sword" to obtain.

chessyang · May 31, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09

@The Herbalizer

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...3&postcount=51

from GWonline. Is this the same 15% short swords you have posted?

The Herbalizer · May 31, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milennin

Do Unconditional Weapons still drop, or are they discontinued...?

Nope, they only dropped from keyless chests in the Arid Sea in the first couple of weeks. Apparently the weapons with conditional damage, e.g. -10 Al, -5 Energy, -1 Energy Regen, -1 Hp Regen all turned to unconditional.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medion

What is this? Looked for info on wiki, but couldn't find any.

Here is one: -

Mine hasnt been modded as I dont like modding really old weapons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chessyang

@The Herbalizer

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...3&postcount=51

from GWonline. Is this the same 15% short swords you have posted?

Yeah, a friend bought it off of Pryzmatic (sp.) quite a while ago now.

Mesmer in Need · May 31, 2007, 05:24 AM // 05:24

A req 7 unconditional crystalin, max. If it existed, it would go for inconcievable amounts of money. Even if herb sold all her weapons and farmed ectos and black dyes and rubies and diamonds for the rest of gw she still wouldent be able to buy it. How's that for rare?

summer_goth · May 31, 2007, 07:24 AM // 07:24

Thank you very much for the list The Herbalizer. It's exactly the kind of thing that I was looking for.

Very impressive!

Cebe · May 31, 2007, 07:36 AM // 07:36

I think the Canthan skin Crude Axes still pretty rare to have a gold drop of?

holababe · May 31, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55

colossal's aren't that rare since HM.
Besides they still drop - unconditional's dont.

Destinyy · May 31, 2007, 09:00 AM // 09:00

Herbalizer!!! WOW, very nice array of weaps there, I like!!!

It's so cool that you have a personal history of various types of weapons that have dropped over your time playing...

You musta been playing since the start...

spun ducky · May 31, 2007, 09:36 AM // 09:36

I just wanted to say to herbalizer about 1.5 years ago or so I remember a req7 15>50 mursaat hammer was sold on the high end forums. The trick to making unconditional weapons was as follows get a +xx% weapon and it had to have -1 health regen as the minus then you added a vampiric mod then removed it which then made it unconditional.

MAnderson · May 31, 2007, 09:52 AM // 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeander

Is there an ulitimate super rare item that maybe has only dropped a few times in Guild Wars history? In the game I used to play, there were a few such rare items that you could track through different players back a couple of years. Getting one as a drop was practicaly a life chaning event, LOL. So I'm just curious if Guild Wars has anything like that.

GuildKey... So rare its never been dropped.

Enko · May 31, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by spun ducky

I just wanted to say to herbalizer about 1.5 years ago or so I remember a req7 15>50 mursaat hammer was sold on the high end forums. The trick to making unconditional weapons was as follows get a +xx% weapon and it had to have -1 health regen as the minus then you added a vampiric mod then removed it which then made it unconditional.

how were they supposed to remove the vampiric mod? the ability to remove mods without breaking them didn't come out until much much later (a couple months after factions came out I think).

edit: ah, removed/replaced. heh, should not post after not sleeping for a few days . ..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

A req 7 unconditional crystalin, max. If it existed, it would go for inconcievable amounts of money. Even if herb sold all her weapons and farmed ectos and black dyes and rubies and diamonds for the rest of gw she still wouldent be able to buy it. How's that for rare?

i think the OP was asking about items that actually existed. Besides, max tradable is 100k + 1750 of a stackable item. Most expensive currently are rubies at 7k and even with that its still only a little over 12 million. Unless you think someone's going to trust someone enough to do it in 2 trades . ..

The Herbalizer · May 31, 2007, 10:04 AM // 10:04

Well...

What I was told originally the gold weapons when ided had a -1 energy or -1 Hp inherent damage mod. They either dropped with zealous or vampiric mods or had them added. Back then as far as I know they would only show -1 energy regen or -1 Hp regen when the inherent mod and mod is present instead of -2 energy regen or -2 Hp regen. When a new mod was added e.g. sundering the conditional inherent damage modifier disappeared.

I cant remember how the degens stacked back then it was either something like this: -

Zealous Weapon
Dmg + 15%
-1 Energy Regen
-1 Energy Regen

Or something like this: -

Zealous Weapon
Dmg +15%
-1 Energy Regen

Then when a new mod was added they became: -

Sundering Weapon
Dmg + 15%

I asked the owner of the last unconditional weapon I bought who had it since it dropped for his guild how it became unconditional. He said he wasnt 100% sure but he thought that they didnt replace or add any mods. He said how their -1 energy & hp regen, -10al and -5 energy weapons just became unconditional. Pretty reliable source considering at least 5 unconditional weapons have been found by that guild including imo the two best ones.

Im not sure how accurate the second theory I have is as the person who found the Zealous Serpent Axe in the top right of the unconditional picture changed the mod to an elemental one and it just became +14% lending support to the first theory. Maybe he added the Zealous upgrade after it became unconditional as I bought an axe owned by him and it had Zealous on it too so maybe he like that mod...

May 30, 2007, 03:57 PM // 15:57	#22
The Herbalizer <3 Ecto Join Date: Jul 2005	Hope this helps:- R7 Hammers: Only seen one max damage one which was R7 15>50 Spikey Warhammer R7 Axes: There are like 4 of them I think. R7 15 -5Energy Hand Axe, R7 15% Enchant, R7 15>50 War Axe, R7 15>50 Cleaver Staff Wrapping: All it says is Staff Wrapping. Only a few around. R8 15>50 Crystalline Swords: Very very few of them. I have personally only seen 4 of them but have been told there are quite a few more. R7 Shields: Not ultra rare but rare nonetheless. Dual damage reduction ones are not that rare e.g. -2-2. The rarer ones are the +XX Hp -X Dmg. HOD Hammer / 55 HP Hammer: Only seen one of them ever which is mine. Unconditional Weapons: Only number a few dozen and most are on inactive accounts now. A fair few are customized too. There is also the following but I cant find screens of them atm:- R 14% Warhammer (Rams Hammer Skin) R 12% Cleaver R9 14% Flamberge R9 14% Falchion R7 15>50 Brute Sword: Only seen two of them and one is customized. R9 15>50 15-5 Energy Crystalline Swords Only a few of them around. R8 15>50 Dwarven Axe: Only seen one which sold for I think 1000 ecto ages ago. +7 (I think) Energy Axe: Collectors item whch no longer available. Only ever seen one. -50 Hp Healing Req Grim Cesta: Not that many of them around. No Req Gold Raven & Ghostly Staffs: Personally only seen like 6 or 7 of them. Nothing special but look cool. Last edited by The Herbalizer; May 30, 2007 at 04:00 PM // 16:00..

May 31, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09	#30
chessyang Not far from Elite Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Florida Profession: W/	@The Herbalizer http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...3&postcount=51 from GWonline. Is this the same 15% short swords you have posted? __________________ Let's use our Voices! The Chapter Selection Screen GW Wiki or Guru Thank You

May 31, 2007, 10:04 AM // 10:04	#40
The Herbalizer <3 Ecto Join Date: Jul 2005	Well... What I was told originally the gold weapons when ided had a -1 energy or -1 Hp inherent damage mod. They either dropped with zealous or vampiric mods or had them added. Back then as far as I know they would only show -1 energy regen or -1 Hp regen when the inherent mod and mod is present instead of -2 energy regen or -2 Hp regen. When a new mod was added e.g. sundering the conditional inherent damage modifier disappeared. I cant remember how the degens stacked back then it was either something like this: - Zealous Weapon Dmg + 15% -1 Energy Regen -1 Energy Regen Or something like this: - Zealous Weapon Dmg +15% -1 Energy Regen Then when a new mod was added they became: - Sundering Weapon Dmg + 15% I asked the owner of the last unconditional weapon I bought who had it since it dropped for his guild how it became unconditional. He said he wasnt 100% sure but he thought that they didnt replace or add any mods. He said how their -1 energy & hp regen, -10al and -5 energy weapons just became unconditional. Pretty reliable source considering at least 5 unconditional weapons have been found by that guild including imo the two best ones. Im not sure how accurate the second theory I have is as the person who found the Zealous Serpent Axe in the top right of the unconditional picture changed the mod to an elemental one and it just became +14% lending support to the first theory. Maybe he added the Zealous upgrade after it became unconditional as I bought an axe owned by him and it had Zealous on it too so maybe he like that mod... Last edited by The Herbalizer; May 31, 2007 at 10:09 AM // 10:09..

May 30, 2007, 03:50 PM // 15:50	#21
tommarrow Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Shyft Machine [MYTH] Profession: E/	I see colossal scimitars being sold almost everyday, can't be that rare.

May 30, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21	#23
TheRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Guild: Spirit of Elisha Profession: W/	I don't think any item that currently drops can be considered "Rarest of the Rare"! Sure, there are some nice expensive stuff out there (Crystallines, Mini ghostly, mini mallyx, etc.), but any item that can be gained by going to X Area, killing 10-400 of X monster (or player) and collecting the reward is not considered to be in the same rarity bracket as the stuff Herbalizer mentions. Even if the drop rate is soo incredibly low that perhaps only 1 in 1000 folks that complete the above task will win the item, with hundreds and thousands of players completing the task each day, these items will eventually become commonplace. They will probably always be rare and expensive, but not the type of rare that you are asking about. No, this level of rarity will always be reserved for items that are no longer obtainable in game. (Unconditional weapons, tattered cloak, Golds in pre, mini beetles, etc) There is a certain number of the item available and that's it. No more are coming. If this is an item desired by many players then the price tag is high. For example, the mini beetle was awarded a few months ago to champion beetle racers. I'm not sure if 500 beetles were awarded or only 100. Let's say there were 500 for the sake of argument. The day after the beetle races close there are 500 beetles ingame. Some get accidentally deleted. Some accounts with beetles are banned. Some beetle winners get bored with the game and uninstall and go to WoW. A month later there are 470 beetles in game. 2 months later - 468 beetles 3 months later - 460 beetles A year later - 430 beetles. You get the picture. Unless A-Net awards more beetles, the price tag and rarity will only go up on these items. Same thing with the Tattered Cloak. When the item dropped in game there were thousands of players with this item in their inventory. It's a useless item though so most players deleted it. Now only a handful exist ingame so it's a valuable (yet still useless) item. It's the same economic principle that allows Action Comics #1 to sell for thousands. When it was first issued it sold for 10 cents and there were thousands of copies around. 70 years later there are perhaps 5 copies in good condition and a few dozen more in crappy condition.

May 30, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37	#24
Narcism Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Guild: Mostly Harmless Profession: W/	I have a bunch of superior/major runes with minor skins (2 of my sup vigors are like this, i have some majors, but who uses majors lawwwl) I have a bunch of no-req raven staves (6-10 damage +10 energy unconditional)

May 30, 2007, 05:41 PM // 17:41	#25
masteroflife Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006	no thx to Hard Mode, i think everyone who wants a colossal scimitar already have one already. it's incredibally cheap rite now.

May 30, 2007, 05:57 PM // 17:57	#27
Milennin Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Europe Profession: W/	Do Unconditional Weapons still drop, or are they discontinued...?

May 30, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04	#28
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	As pointed out a while ago, they no longer drop Milennin. They didn't really "drop" either, but were created with a bug. They only droped for like the first 3 weeks of the game.

May 31, 2007, 05:24 AM // 05:24	#32
Mesmer in Need Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: [ToA]	A req 7 unconditional crystalin, max. If it existed, it would go for inconcievable amounts of money. Even if herb sold all her weapons and farmed ectos and black dyes and rubies and diamonds for the rest of gw she still wouldent be able to buy it. How's that for rare?

May 31, 2007, 07:24 AM // 07:24	#33
summer_goth Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Africa Guild: Roses of the Moonlight Sigil [RoMS] Profession: P/W	Thank you very much for the list The Herbalizer. It's exactly the kind of thing that I was looking for. Very impressive!

May 31, 2007, 07:36 AM // 07:36	#34
Cebe The 5th Celestial Boss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Inverness, Scotland Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO] Profession: E/	I think the Canthan skin Crude Axes still pretty rare to have a gold drop of?

May 31, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55	#35
holababe Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Goon Squad [LLJK] Profession: Mo/	colossal's aren't that rare since HM. Besides they still drop - unconditional's dont.

May 31, 2007, 09:00 AM // 09:00	#36
Destinyy Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Faction of War [ARES]	Herbalizer!!! WOW, very nice array of weaps there, I like!!! It's so cool that you have a personal history of various types of weapons that have dropped over your time playing... You musta been playing since the start...

May 31, 2007, 09:36 AM // 09:36	#37
spun ducky Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: WTB: q8 bows Profession: R/N	I just wanted to say to herbalizer about 1.5 years ago or so I remember a req7 15>50 mursaat hammer was sold on the high end forums. The trick to making unconditional weapons was as follows get a +xx% weapon and it had to have -1 health regen as the minus then you added a vampiric mod then removed it which then made it unconditional.